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Gimme Sake
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Posted - 2015.03.13 15:05:57 -
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Mainly to avoid altering my sandbox with the whims, and litter of OP like-minded CEOs.
In an NPC corp there is no schedule, no set game role, no drama, no hierarchy, no obligation, no awoxing etc.
It's a game not a job.
If life inside a Corp is so great you better start wondering why most players need to have at least one NPC corp alt. |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.17 11:46:12 -
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Black Pedro wrote:
The mechanics reward solo, risk-averse play rather than collaborative and risky group play to the detriment of a vibrant sandbox.
Have you, Sir, heard about the Blob?
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.19 05:42:12 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Being able to operate close to consequence free, although not a play style, is an advantage that indirectly causes issues. I'm at work I can go into detail with that later, if want. I'm sure Kaarous if he has the time can explain how that doesn't really fit the Marketing that CCP presented for all these years is the first one that comes to my mind.
I don't see how you can turn a casual player into a hardcore player. And/or why do you, or the OP care to do it.
No idea what do you mean by consequence free... hauling alts that can't be warddeced? All the coloured Frogs function on that principle and that's why they're reliable. Do you feel like any player should respond to a higher authority? Should everything be under the control(l) of a donut or another? Isn't that exactly an attempt of playing safe that everybody disses it but avidly practices?
Curious about the issues you will detail later. |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.19 15:46:59 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote:Gimme Sake wrote:Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Being able to operate close to consequence free, although not a play style, is an advantage that indirectly causes issues. I'm at work I can go into detail with that later, if want. I'm sure Kaarous if he has the time can explain how that doesn't really fit the Marketing that CCP presented for all these years is the first one that comes to my mind.
I don't see how you can turn a casual player into a hardcore player. And/or why do you, or the OP care to do it. No idea what do you mean by consequence free... hauling alts that can't be warddeced? All the coloured Frogs function on that principle and that's why they're reliable. Do you feel like any player should respond to a higher authority? Should everything be under the control(l) of a donut or another? Isn't that exactly an attempt of playing safe that everybody disses it but avidly practices? Curious about the issues you will detail later. EVE has always from my perspective, been a game that consequence are a real thing. I'm not the only one, Forum Alts, are a great example of other players doing there best to avoid it. I've never said I want casual players out of EVE, I don't mind that 40% or so of EVE newbro's take the casual path and mission/mine or whatever solo on there free time. That doesn't bother me. One of the things that I personally, have a problem with is that NPC corps allow players to operate with only fear of being ganked, in Highsec. Avoiding these things, like wardec, ganks, and the such should avoided by mean of, Diplo's, Payment's, Brute Force, actual effort. However NPC corps allows player to avoid Wardecs, allows people to basically dance around like a ninny with out the worry about risk. Getting Wardec by other corp is a risk you take with a player corp. Avoiding Risk is fine, just as long as you put effort into it. NPC corps being Wardec free take away that risk. However NPC corps should not be Wardec, that would be silly, I'm not saying NPC corps SHOULD be wardec-able? Wardecable? I do think that people using NPC as a Wardec shield is a lazy way to get around a mechanic in the game. If you want to avoid Wardecs, you should Pay the Piper, Beat the **** out of the Piper or make friends with the Piper. I believe that NPC along with other things I've said regarding NPE experiences inside them, allow for stagnation to occur of the player.
So what is really bothering you is you can't wardec because NPC corp members are as gankable as anybody else is in high sec. And that is exactly what wardecs are for high sec, a pretext to gank and play station games in high sec without being Concordokken. The real name of this thread should be "OHHH Y U NO LET ME WARDEC EVERBODY?". Perhaps you should start a thread requiring the need for a casus belli to wardec, a mechanic similar with suspect/engagement timers. |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.20 03:27:18 -
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Beats me why players who are NOT members of NPC corporations post in this thread. |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.20 03:54:13 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Gimme Sake wrote: Beats me why players who are NOT members of NPC corporations post in this thread. Because it's the only game I personally play, so I have as much stake in this issue as anyone else. You don't need to be in an NPC Corp (I have alts in NPC Corps, so I guess I could post with those) to be interested in the topic.
My point is to let the NPC members post their reasoning not divert the thread into a debate over wardecs. Because, at least for me, the major motive is lack of social hierarchies. |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.20 08:53:05 -
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Juno Rook wrote:Why not approach this from a different angle.
From what I can gather, the problem at its most basic level is that there are fewer targets to pew pew at because new players are staying in npc corps.
So you have players living in null and low sec who want more people to venture out into the vast territory they live in. These players want more interaction so that more pvp happens. The fix is so easy it's laughable.
Simply cut the amount of null and low sec space in half so that players are compressed into smaller spaces. Tons more interaction with a huge potential for pvp. Just imagine all those pissed off pilots crammed into a tiny space. All looking to take out some retribution for loosing all that juicy sov space.
Some of you might not find my solution funny but if you ask for solutions loudly and often enough you might just get one.
You don't understand, let me explain: they pvp only in high sec.
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.20 09:03:17 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Gimme Sake wrote:You don't understand, let me explain: they pvp only in high sec. Yeah, there's no pvp in lowsec or nullsec. It's a myth. None of which really has much to do with the topic.
There's also the myth of low/null having only lonely pve fitted ships and haulers.
Are we getting on topic now?
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.20 09:12:31 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote:Gimme Sake wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Gimme Sake wrote:You don't understand, let me explain: they pvp only in high sec. Yeah, there's no pvp in lowsec or nullsec. It's a myth. None of which really has much to do with the topic. There's also the myth of low/null having only lonely pve fitted ships and haulers. Are we getting on topic now? Not even close. Though something tells me you have no idea on either subject. Also yes l33t hisex merc corps only stay in hisex
The topic is why do players stay in npc corps.
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.21 04:30:41 -
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BravoPrime wrote:Players stay in Nov cops for one reason. CODE
You don't need a wardec to suicide gank.
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.24 23:28:21 -
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People with facebook accounts shouldn't protest against api keys breaking their privacy rights, just sayin'....
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